{"id":4119,"date":"2026-07-24T14:41:53","date_gmt":"2026-07-24T14:41:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/crosscountrymovingteams.com\/?p=4119"},"modified":"2026-07-24T14:41:53","modified_gmt":"2026-07-24T14:41:53","slug":"openai-president-says-the-huggingface-security-beach-is-indicative-of-the-times-we-are-in-as-the-company-continues-to-investigate-how-its-models-went-rogue","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/crosscountrymovingteams.com\/?p=4119","title":{"rendered":"OpenAI President says the HuggingFace security beach \u2018is indicative of the times we are in\u2019 as the company continues to investigate how its models went rogue"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<p>Brockman is among the largest donors to Trump\u2019s political war chest, having given $25 million in Janaury to the Trump-aligned super PAC MAGA, Inc. The move was widely interpreted as an attempt to curry Trump\u2019s favor.<\/p>\n<p>Read more <a href=\"https:\/\/crosscountrymovingteams.com\/?p=4117\">South Korea\u2019s \u2018divorce of the century\u2019 results in order for SK chair to pay ex-wife $640 million<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Brockman said he had not been in any conversations with the administration about banning Chinese AI models in the U.S. <\/p>\n<p>He suggested that a ban might distract from more pressing policy concerns, particularly around AI safety. \u201cFor any model, it\u2019s not really about who creates it,\u201d he said. The more important questions, he said, include: \u201cHow do you evaluate a model? How do you think about its safety? How do you think about its use cases? How do you understand its alignment?\u201d<\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>The Trump administration is weighing a ban on cutting-edge Chinese AI models after Beijing-based Moonshot AI released its powerful Kimi K3 model, Axios reported this week. That model came close to equally the performance of the best models from American AI companies Anthropic and OpenAI, but was potentially much cheaper to use.<\/p>\n<p> The White House has accused Moonshot of stealing the intellectual property of U.S. AI labs to build Kimi K3 through a process known as \u201cdistillation,\u201d in which the outputs of one AI model are used as training inputs for another model. The terms and conditions of most AI vendors prohibit distillation but legal experts say the tactic is a legal gray area rather than a clear case of IP theft. In particular, Michael Kratsios, the director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, said Moonshot had used outputs from Anthropic\u2019s Fable 5 to train Kimi K3.<\/p>\n<p>The strengths of Chinese AI models were also highlighted by the OpenAI rogue AI incident. In that case, Hugging Face, the company that came under attack, said it was forced to use a Chinese open source model, Z.ai\u2019s GLM-5.2, to defend itself from the attack. Hugging Face said it had to do this because it first tried an unnamed American AI model but found its strict guardrails around cyber capabilities rendered it useless for conducting a defense of the on-going attack. <\/p>\n<p>When asked about whether he thought it was concerning Hugging Face had to use a Chinese-built model, Brockman did not directly answer the question. He reiterated the importance of having access to as many AI tools as possible. \u201cWe really think that putting these tools in defenders\u2019 hands is very important, and that\u2019s something that we\u2019ve actually really pushed towards,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang seems to agree with Brockman. This week he called the latest Chinese AI models \u201cexcellent\u201d and saying they \u201cshould be used.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Read more <a href=\"https:\/\/crosscountrymovingteams.com\/?p=4115\">Trump reimposes tariffs on 60 countries using forced-labor law<\/a><\/p>\n<div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>The U.S. government\u2019s concern about widespread access to increasingly powerful, and potentially dangerous, AI has complicated the business of frontier labs like Anthropic and OpenAI. The Trump administration effectively forced Anthropic\u2019s Fable model off the market for most of the month of June over security concerns. Brockman said OpenAI had to work \u201cvery closely\u201d with the administration on the rollout of its GPT-5.6 model before its release shortly on July 9.<\/p>\n<p>When asked whether open source models are a threat to OpenAI\u2019s business since they can offer similar performance at a lower cost, Brockman disputed the commonly-held belief that open source models were necessarily less expensive because, while the models are often free to download, companies wanting to use them generally have to purchase their own cloud computing capacity to do so. <\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>\u201cOne narrative I would love to correct on cost [is that] it\u2019s not the case that open source models are magically cheap,\u201d he said. \u201cEverything\u2019s running on the same hardware.\u201d He said OpenAI works to make its models as cheap as possible for the task at hand. 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